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Pallidus127
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« on: April 02, 2010, 09:37:04 AM »

California GOP is opposing the Cannabis Act:  http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14802333?nclick_check=1
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Quietus
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 08:56:25 PM »

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CRP Statement Concerning Initiative to Legalize Dope in California
SACRAMENTO – California Republican Party Chairman Ron Nehring today issued the following statement:

"The last thing California needs is hundreds of thousands of more people getting high, and the costs to society that would come from widely expanded drug use.
 
"We know a top factor behind whether young people try drugs is cost, and legalization would certainly bring the cost of dope down, making it much more widely accessible.  We also know that if a person makes it to age 21 without trying drugs, they’re very unlikely to ever get started down the path of drug use beginning with dope and leading to much harder drugs like meth and cocaine.
 
"Proponents of legalizing ‘and taxing’ dope are trying to mask their efforts as some kind of revenue generator for state government.  Whatever ‘taxes’ dope smokers would pay would not come even close to covering the societal costs of hundreds of thousands of more Californians getting high, the accidents and health problems they would cause, and other societal costs.
"California Republicans will fight this and any other measure to expand drug use in California. When it comes to this kind of legislation, there's a reason they call it 'dope.'"


http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm/statement_1085.htm

The silly road to ruin argument.  Though I doubt they're committing suicide over it, even in California.

They can't do anything about it, as it's a ballot question.  So there's no reason for them to take an official position.

State party machinery doesn't tend to move unless the demographics have been calculated.  This indicates that their internal polling suggested to them it's a good differentiator between the parties with little downside.

You can see some shades of this at the local and county levels, as stories over the last year about pushback from these local governments exploded.  800 "drug stores" in our county alone we need to pass ordinances to stop the madness, etc.
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Quietus
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 12:45:14 PM »

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Campaign manager Rose Kapolczynski issued a statement detailing the senator's stance on the measure, which qualified for the ballot last week.

Senator Boxer does not support this initiative because she shares the concerns of police chiefs, sheriffs and other law enforcement officials that this measure could lead to an increase in crime, vehicle accidents and higher costs for local law enforcement agencies," Kapolczynski said. "She supports current law in California, which allows for the use of medicinal marijuana with a doctor's prescription."


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/sen-boxer-opposes-california-initiative-to-full-legalizing-marijuana.php?ref=mp

Looks like I was right.  The state's most powerful Democrat announced her opposition yesterday, causing an explosion of blogs about it.

Senator Barbara Boxer: "Don't Call Me Ma'am" - General Michael Walsh


She's in the fight of her life after taking a pummeling over her narcissism with the "Excuse me, call me senator" fiasco a few months back.  So there's no way in hell she would take a position on what is solely an intra-state issue if her own internal polling didn't push her to do so.

So suicide?  Nah.  There's just something about the public support level in California for full legalization that we don't know.
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Quietus
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 06:51:58 PM »

So suicide?  Nah.  There's just something about the public support level in California for full legalization that we don't know.


Well now we know.

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2342.pdf

77% is a high penetration number.  From the demographics there is still time to put the issue over the top by leeching a few percentage points from that 33%.  It can also slip in the other direction if the recent rash of murderous robberies of dispensaries is unabated.

However I can't really see living in california and not having heard of the initiative.  Do they not own a tv or radio?  Can't for some reason read the newspaper?  The survey includes them as likely voters, but I'm somewhat unsure about that.
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